As a replacement for factory speakers
by kevged ,Feb 17 '05
Pros: Power handling seems to be good as far as the RMS maximum that is stated.
Cons: I found them to be very trebley.
I bought these to replace a buzzy factory door speaker in my Intrepid. The factory speaker produced more bass than the pioneer at most volumes with the 120 watt total power provided by the factory radio. When I listened to these in the showroom they had a subwoofer hooked up and it sounded excellent - better than two other popular brands. I believe this is due to the silky foamy midrange and well defined two tweeter treble. I expected the fit to be somewhat better on the oversized 6" replacement. I didn't want to redrill holes so I had to use a bracket and some clips that were included to change the three screw setup to four. The only fit that allowed me to mount the speakers without trimming the bracket was at a 45 degree angle. It's also not attached quite as tight at the original, but no one is going to be pulling on it behind the factory grille. I'd probably have rated them higher if they were in the $50-79 range instead of the $109 I paid.
Saturday, December 2, 2006
Pioneer TS-C1353 Car Component System
Pros
Good sound
Cons
Crossover is ugly. Don't handle bass too well.
Full Review
I have a set of these 5.25 inch speakers in my front doors. The tweeters are in the front door panels as well. The component set was fairly simple to install-all the instructions were on the box. Also, to make the installers life easier, there is a cut-out section on the box that the installer can trace in order to cut hole for the speakers. The speaker produce great, clean sound. The crossover is pretty big and ugly, but that is easily fixable by hiding the thing under your dash or, like I did, in your doors.
Also, if you are planning to send tons of bass through the speakers, don't do it. They don't handdle it too well. I had to cut the bass out on mine in order to get rid of distortion. These speakers are great if you have a sub. You can just send all the bass through the subwoofer.
Good sound
Cons
Crossover is ugly. Don't handle bass too well.
Full Review
I have a set of these 5.25 inch speakers in my front doors. The tweeters are in the front door panels as well. The component set was fairly simple to install-all the instructions were on the box. Also, to make the installers life easier, there is a cut-out section on the box that the installer can trace in order to cut hole for the speakers. The speaker produce great, clean sound. The crossover is pretty big and ugly, but that is easily fixable by hiding the thing under your dash or, like I did, in your doors.
Also, if you are planning to send tons of bass through the speakers, don't do it. They don't handdle it too well. I had to cut the bass out on mine in order to get rid of distortion. These speakers are great if you have a sub. You can just send all the bass through the subwoofer.
Pioneer TS-G1341R Coaxial Car Speaker
Pros
Nice midrange and treble; very easy to install; feel solid and well-built
Cons
No bass. None.
The Bottom Line
Just a little more bass would make these good speakers. These are a good choice for a low-cost system that includes a subwoofer.
Full Review
Sometimes, bigger is better. When it comes to loudspeakers, you just can't beat speaker size for creating rich bass and natural sound. There is no way to squeeze bass blood from a tweeter turnip.
This was the problem I faced in one of my cars, which had 5.25-inch two-way speakers low in the doors, augmented by tweeters up high in the doors. I was unhappy with the bass this system produced (there are two 4x6-inch speakers mounted in back) and thought that a different set of 5.25-inch speakers just might make more bass than what was already in the car. Since I was very impressed with the 6.5-inch Pioneer two-way speakers I installed in a different car, I decided to install 5.25-inch Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers in the first car.
What They Are
The Pioneer TS-G1341R is a two-way coaxial speaker with a 5.25-inch woofer and a 1.18-inch tweeter. The tweeter is fixed in position and cannot be rotated or angled. The woofer has an injection-molded polypropylene cone with a rolled cloth edge and uses a six ounce magnet. The tweeter has a tiny (0.6 ounce) neodymium magnet and has a PEI dome construction. The overall nominal impedance is four ohms and the speaker is rated to handle 25 Watts of continuous (nominal) power.
The overall frequency response is rated by Pioneer at 60 Hz to 22 kHz and the sensitivity is rated at 91 dB (1 Watt at 1 meter). The mounting depth is a shallow 1.82 inches and there are four mounting lugs evenly spaced around the perimeter of the stamped steel frame.
Included with the speakers are a couple short hanks of wire with female connectors that mate with the terminal lugs on the speakers. Also included are some screws and nuts to simplify attaching the speaker to custom cutouts. Since I was installing the speakers as exact-sized replacements, I could re-use the screws holding in my existing 5.25-inch speakers.
I paid around $38 for a pair of these speakers at Wal-Mart.
Installation
This was very easy in my car. Once I had removed the map pocket that covers the speakers, it was a simple matter of unscrewing four screws, disconnecting the original speaker, connecting the new speaker and screwing everything back together. It took perhaps no more than 15 minutes per side and by appearance you would never know anything had changed.
There was already some sound dampening in the doors behind the speakers, so I saw no need to add additional sound mats or other treatments.
Sound Quality
The old speakers were just bland, without much life. Of course, being small they had little bottom end. The Pioneer TS-G1341R has a little more treble and definitely stronger mid- to upper-midrange than the old speakers. This makes women's voices stronger and punchier, and the added treble is good for percussion and guitar edges. One of the first things I listened to was an MP3 disk of Alanis Morrisette, and it sounded very good with her voice. Also good were male voices in the tenor range, including one of my favorites, Steve Goodman.
Musical instruments such as acoustic guitar sound very good, with crisp and well-defined notes. Drums have a sharp snap and electric guitar has pleasing overtones at the high end. Really, everything from mids on up is pleasant at the modest levels I prefer.
What this speaker has little of is bass. When it comes down to it, what can you expect from a 5.25-inch woofer? There is simply not enough moving area to generate much bass.
You have to understand where I'm coming from here. I'm an old folky from the 1960s, still hung up on the Beatles and Bob Dylan. To me, "rap music" is an oxymoron. I'm simply looking for good, clean, balanced sound, with enough bass to give some meat to the music. However, if you like a thumping bottom end, you have come to the wrong speakers. Bigger is definitely better in this case and these little guys are yorkies looking for respect among the labrador retrievers. They can yip pretty well but their woof is laughable.
What the car really needs to give it richer sound is a subwoofer. For my needs, an eight-inch subwoofer would probably be just fine. In the meantime, the Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers have strong and clear mids and highs -- they just sound a little naked without anything on the bottom.
Summary
The Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers have no worse bass than the 5.25-inch speakers I removed; the problem is that they have no more bass. This is not really the fault of the speaker, as there is just so much air that a 5.25-inch speaker can move, particularly in a location that's some distance from my ears. Don't expect to solve your bass deficiencies with the Pioneer TS-G1341R.
This looks, feels and sounds like a well constructed speaker, especially for its reasonable price. By itself, it can't carry the weight of a full-range car sound system as it drops off quickly when it comes to delivering bass. However, it would be a very good component in a system that includes a balanced subwoofer.
I like the sound that I get from these Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers. It just sounds... unfinished.
Nice midrange and treble; very easy to install; feel solid and well-built
Cons
No bass. None.
The Bottom Line
Just a little more bass would make these good speakers. These are a good choice for a low-cost system that includes a subwoofer.
Full Review
Sometimes, bigger is better. When it comes to loudspeakers, you just can't beat speaker size for creating rich bass and natural sound. There is no way to squeeze bass blood from a tweeter turnip.
This was the problem I faced in one of my cars, which had 5.25-inch two-way speakers low in the doors, augmented by tweeters up high in the doors. I was unhappy with the bass this system produced (there are two 4x6-inch speakers mounted in back) and thought that a different set of 5.25-inch speakers just might make more bass than what was already in the car. Since I was very impressed with the 6.5-inch Pioneer two-way speakers I installed in a different car, I decided to install 5.25-inch Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers in the first car.
What They Are
The Pioneer TS-G1341R is a two-way coaxial speaker with a 5.25-inch woofer and a 1.18-inch tweeter. The tweeter is fixed in position and cannot be rotated or angled. The woofer has an injection-molded polypropylene cone with a rolled cloth edge and uses a six ounce magnet. The tweeter has a tiny (0.6 ounce) neodymium magnet and has a PEI dome construction. The overall nominal impedance is four ohms and the speaker is rated to handle 25 Watts of continuous (nominal) power.
The overall frequency response is rated by Pioneer at 60 Hz to 22 kHz and the sensitivity is rated at 91 dB (1 Watt at 1 meter). The mounting depth is a shallow 1.82 inches and there are four mounting lugs evenly spaced around the perimeter of the stamped steel frame.
Included with the speakers are a couple short hanks of wire with female connectors that mate with the terminal lugs on the speakers. Also included are some screws and nuts to simplify attaching the speaker to custom cutouts. Since I was installing the speakers as exact-sized replacements, I could re-use the screws holding in my existing 5.25-inch speakers.
I paid around $38 for a pair of these speakers at Wal-Mart.
Installation
This was very easy in my car. Once I had removed the map pocket that covers the speakers, it was a simple matter of unscrewing four screws, disconnecting the original speaker, connecting the new speaker and screwing everything back together. It took perhaps no more than 15 minutes per side and by appearance you would never know anything had changed.
There was already some sound dampening in the doors behind the speakers, so I saw no need to add additional sound mats or other treatments.
Sound Quality
The old speakers were just bland, without much life. Of course, being small they had little bottom end. The Pioneer TS-G1341R has a little more treble and definitely stronger mid- to upper-midrange than the old speakers. This makes women's voices stronger and punchier, and the added treble is good for percussion and guitar edges. One of the first things I listened to was an MP3 disk of Alanis Morrisette, and it sounded very good with her voice. Also good were male voices in the tenor range, including one of my favorites, Steve Goodman.
Musical instruments such as acoustic guitar sound very good, with crisp and well-defined notes. Drums have a sharp snap and electric guitar has pleasing overtones at the high end. Really, everything from mids on up is pleasant at the modest levels I prefer.
What this speaker has little of is bass. When it comes down to it, what can you expect from a 5.25-inch woofer? There is simply not enough moving area to generate much bass.
You have to understand where I'm coming from here. I'm an old folky from the 1960s, still hung up on the Beatles and Bob Dylan. To me, "rap music" is an oxymoron. I'm simply looking for good, clean, balanced sound, with enough bass to give some meat to the music. However, if you like a thumping bottom end, you have come to the wrong speakers. Bigger is definitely better in this case and these little guys are yorkies looking for respect among the labrador retrievers. They can yip pretty well but their woof is laughable.
What the car really needs to give it richer sound is a subwoofer. For my needs, an eight-inch subwoofer would probably be just fine. In the meantime, the Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers have strong and clear mids and highs -- they just sound a little naked without anything on the bottom.
Summary
The Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers have no worse bass than the 5.25-inch speakers I removed; the problem is that they have no more bass. This is not really the fault of the speaker, as there is just so much air that a 5.25-inch speaker can move, particularly in a location that's some distance from my ears. Don't expect to solve your bass deficiencies with the Pioneer TS-G1341R.
This looks, feels and sounds like a well constructed speaker, especially for its reasonable price. By itself, it can't carry the weight of a full-range car sound system as it drops off quickly when it comes to delivering bass. However, it would be a very good component in a system that includes a balanced subwoofer.
I like the sound that I get from these Pioneer TS-G1341R speakers. It just sounds... unfinished.
Pioneer TS-A6980R Coaxial Car Speaker
Pros: Bass response, 4-way speakers, cost
Cons: midrange and treble could be better...but that's not what 6x9 speakers are for
I replaced my OEM BOSE 6x9 speakers with a set of these Pioneer 6980 4-ways.. I was mainly looking for more bass. Wow, what a difference the Pioneers made! The bass response is fabulous, and the midrange/ treble is OK too. Plus the price was right at under $60 for the pair. You really can't go wrong with these speakers.
Cons: midrange and treble could be better...but that's not what 6x9 speakers are for
I replaced my OEM BOSE 6x9 speakers with a set of these Pioneer 6980 4-ways.. I was mainly looking for more bass. Wow, what a difference the Pioneers made! The bass response is fabulous, and the midrange/ treble is OK too. Plus the price was right at under $60 for the pair. You really can't go wrong with these speakers.
Pioneer C-Type TS-W306DVC Car Subwoofer
Disappointing
by riad ,Aug 24 '05
Pros: It's pretty. Nice black finish
Cons: can't take 400W Rms bad frequency response doesn't hit hard.
This speaker has been nothing but a big disappointment. The new basket, new cone and new motor assembly contribute nothing extra from the TsW305DVC even the 304DVC blows this thing away.(silver cone IMPP wid VCCS).
by riad ,Aug 24 '05
Pros: It's pretty. Nice black finish
Cons: can't take 400W Rms bad frequency response doesn't hit hard.
This speaker has been nothing but a big disappointment. The new basket, new cone and new motor assembly contribute nothing extra from the TsW305DVC even the 304DVC blows this thing away.(silver cone IMPP wid VCCS).
Pioneer TS-C160R Coaxial Car Speaker
Great Highs Cute looks.
by nhj22 ,Feb 16 '06
Pros: Great Highs and Cutie looking
Cons: Expensive to get them installed.
These Speakers give out excellent high frequency. The sound is crisp and soothing and will not get irratating after a few minutes of listening like other speakers.
THey look really nice on the door panel where i have them installed.A lot of people have complimented them
by nhj22 ,Feb 16 '06
Pros: Great Highs and Cutie looking
Cons: Expensive to get them installed.
These Speakers give out excellent high frequency. The sound is crisp and soothing and will not get irratating after a few minutes of listening like other speakers.
THey look really nice on the door panel where i have them installed.A lot of people have complimented them
Pioneer TS-W300R Car Subwoofer
Pros: Clean Sounding Bass
Cons: Overrated
This sub only lasted 5 minutes until I blew both of them. I'm running a Profile Cl1200 and I had the subs mounted in a bandpass box. When it first came on, the bass was clean and accurate. I put on some Three Six Mafia and it was really booming. 4 and a half minutes, smoke came out the box then the subs stop playing. Well I guess you get what you pay for. They probably would work on my brother's pyramid amp. Do yourself a favor and save your money and get a better sub.
Cons: Overrated
This sub only lasted 5 minutes until I blew both of them. I'm running a Profile Cl1200 and I had the subs mounted in a bandpass box. When it first came on, the bass was clean and accurate. I put on some Three Six Mafia and it was really booming. 4 and a half minutes, smoke came out the box then the subs stop playing. Well I guess you get what you pay for. They probably would work on my brother's pyramid amp. Do yourself a favor and save your money and get a better sub.
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